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Examining The Carter-Broxton Mold of Plate Discipline

When you think about plate discipline — specifically good plate discipline — what comes to mind? Sabermetricians fall into two broad schools of thought on what defines the term. On the one hand, some will look at how well a player can detect the difference between a ball and a strike. On the other hand, some will judge a player based on his ability to make contact when he swings. We have metrics for each of these; O-Swing and Z-Swing rates gauge the former, while swing and contact rates (and the resultant whiff rate) keep track of the latter. Still, the fundamental debate remains, and I don’t expect it to cease any time soon.

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I’m not entirely sure which camp I fall into. Instead of ruminating on that, I’d rather look at the players who cross over between the two — the ones who have noteworthy plate discipline in the view of one group, and cringeworthy plate discipline in the view of the other. The Brewers, for the time being, have two such players: Chris Carter and Keon Broxton. Each of them possesses a great batting eye when it comes to balls and strikes…as well as not-so-great judgment when it comes to making contact.

Take a look at their 2016 production in the aforementioned metrics, along with a comparison to the major-league baseline:

Player O-Swing% O-Swing+ Z-Swing% Z-Swing+ Whiff% Whiff+
Chris Carter 24.4% 80 67.5% 106 15.5% 153
Keon Broxton 22.1% 72 65.5% 103 14.7% 145

As is standard for plus stats, 100 is average, and each tick above or below that is one percentage point above or below average. Also, none of these metrics are park-adjusted. Park factors are hard.

Both Carter and Broxton lay off most of the stuff they see outside the strike zone, and in doing so, they don’t become passive within the strike zone. But when they decide to take a cut, they’ll come up empty disturbingly often. The question is, can the former ability negate the latter?

In a poor attempt to answer that, let’s look at some similar players. We’ll set our thresholds at:

  • O-Swing+ of 90 or below
  • Z-Swing+ of 100 or above
  • Whiff+ of 130 or above

How many qualified campaigns, since 2008 — when PITCHf/x data became reliable — can meet those criteria? In addition to Carter’s current one, just 23:

Season Player O-Swing% O-Swing+ Z-Swing% Z-Swing+ Whiff% Whiff+
2016 Chris Carter 24.4% 80 67.5% 106 15.5% 153
2015 Justin Upton 24.0% 78 67.7% 105 13.3% 134
2015 Alex Rodriguez 25.1% 81 66.6% 103 13.2% 132
2013 Chris Carter 26.4% 89 64.6% 103 15.6% 165
2013 Dan Uggla 20.1% 68 64.9% 104 13.9% 147
2013 Justin Upton 25.4% 86 63.1% 101 12.5% 132
2012 Adam Dunn 22.9% 78 62.0% 100 12.3% 132
2012 Mark Reynolds 23.7% 81 62.8% 101 13.7% 147
2012 Dan Uggla 22.7% 77 63.3% 102 12.6% 136
2012 Carlos Pena 24.6% 84 65.8% 106 14.2% 153
2011 Drew Stubbs 23.9% 83 62.7% 101 11.6% 132
2011 Carlos Pena 23.7% 82 69.4% 112 13.4% 151
2011 Mark Reynolds 25.2% 87 67.4% 109 16.5% 186
2011 Corey Hart 25.7% 89 67.8% 109 13.0% 147
2010 Carlos Pena 25.1% 88 68.3% 111 13.6% 157
2010 Mike Napoli 24.6% 87 62.7% 102 13.2% 151
2010 Brandon Inge 25.6% 90 63.2% 103 11.4% 131
2010 Melvin Upton Jr. 25.0% 88 64.0% 104 12.0% 138
2010 Drew Stubbs 22.8% 80 61.6% 100 11.8% 135
2010 Mark Reynolds 25.1% 88 69.0% 113 17.5% 201
2009 Jack Cust 17.4% 62 63.2% 103 11.9% 140
2009 Carlos Pena 23.7% 85 70.2% 114 15.4% 181
2008 Carlos Pena 21.4% 76 69.6% 111 12.8% 150
2008 Milton Bradley 21.5% 77 68.6% 110 11.5% 135

From here, we’ll look at a few different era-adjusted metrics. One obvious question arises, based on the parameters of this study: How did these players fare in terms of strikeouts and walks?

Season Player BB% BB+ K% K+
2016 Chris Carter 11.8% 146 32.2% 153
2015 Justin Upton 11.0% 143 25.6% 125
2015 Alex Rodriguez 13.5% 175 23.4% 115
2013 Chris Carter 12.0% 152 36.2% 182
2013 Dan Uggla 14.3% 181 31.8% 160
2013 Justin Upton 11.7% 148 25.0% 126
2012 Adam Dunn 16.2% 203 34.2% 173
2012 Mark Reynolds 13.6% 170 29.6% 149
2012 Dan Uggla 14.9% 186 26.7% 135
2012 Carlos Pena 14.5% 181 30.3% 153
2011 Drew Stubbs 9.3% 115 30.1% 162
2011 Carlos Pena 16.7% 206 26.6% 143
2011 Mark Reynolds 12.1% 149 31.6% 170
2011 Corey Hart 9.3% 115 20.7% 111
2010 Carlos Pena 14.9% 175 27.1% 146
2010 Mike Napoli 8.2% 96 26.9% 145
2010 Brandon Inge 9.3% 109 23.1% 125
2010 Melvin Upton Jr. 11.0% 129 26.9% 145
2010 Drew Stubbs 9.4% 111 28.8% 156
2010 Mark Reynolds 13.9% 164 35.4% 191
2009 Jack Cust 15.2% 171 30.2% 168
2009 Carlos Pena 15.3% 172 28.6% 159
2008 Carlos Pena 15.8% 182 27.3% 156
2008 Milton Bradley 15.7% 180 22.0% 126

In general, not too terribly. Except for A-Rod last year and Corey Hart — remember that guy? — in 2011, they all went down on strikes at a clip 20 percent worse than average. They compensated for that, though, with a boatload of free passes: Only five of them weren’t at least 20 percent better than average in that regard. On average, these players notched a 157 adjusted walk rate and a 149 adjusted strikeout rate; in other words, their on-base ability made the lack of contact stomachable.

What about when they put the ball in play? Did all of those whiffs bring weak contact, or did their pitch recognition allow them to see meatballs coming and pounce?

Season Player ISO ISO+ BABIP BABIP+
2016 Chris Carter .266 163 .264 88
2015 Justin Upton .203 135 .304 102
2015 Alex Rodriguez .235 157 .278 93
2013 Chris Carter .227 159 .311 105
2013 Justin Upton .201 141 .321 108
2013 Dan Uggla .183 128 .225 76
2012 Dan Uggla .164 109 .283 95
2012 Mark Reynolds .208 138 .282 95
2012 Adam Dunn .263 174 .246 83
2012 Carlos Pena .157 104 .264 89
2011 Drew Stubbs .121 84 .343 116
2011 Mark Reynolds .262 182 .266 90
2011 Corey Hart .226 157 .323 109
2011 Carlos Pena .237 165 .267 91
2010 Drew Stubbs .189 130 .330 111
2010 Carlos Pena .211 146 .222 75
2010 Mike Napoli .230 159 .279 94
2010 Brandon Inge .150 103 .305 103
2010 Melvin Upton Jr. .187 129 .304 102
2010 Mark Reynolds .234 161 .257 87
2009 Carlos Pena .310 200 .250 84
2009 Jack Cust .177 114 .319 107
2008 Milton Bradley .242 159 .388 129
2008 Carlos Pena .247 163 .298 99

The latter theory holds true, and it’s not especially close. In terms of BABIP, the results are a mixed bag — Pena repeatedly struggled to get hits, while Stubbs never stopped racking them up — but overall, this group was just three percent worse than average in that regard. And evidently, they swung-and-missed so often because they were aiming for the fences: These sluggers averaged a 144 adjusted ISO. In the end, that patience seemed to pay off.

And the final, most salient question: How well did these players perform as a whole?

Season Player wRC+
2016 Chris Carter 109
2015 Alex Rodriguez 130
2015 Justin Upton 119
2013 Dan Uggla 91
2013 Justin Upton 129
2013 Chris Carter 112
2012 Mark Reynolds 109
2012 Carlos Pena 98
2012 Dan Uggla 104
2012 Adam Dunn 115
2011 Carlos Pena 121
2011 Corey Hart 137
2011 Mark Reynolds 116
2011 Drew Stubbs 90
2010 Melvin Upton Jr. 107
2010 Drew Stubbs 105
2010 Mike Napoli 115
2010 Carlos Pena 105
2010 Mark Reynolds 96
2010 Brandon Inge 92
2009 Jack Cust 108
2009 Carlos Pena 132
2008 Carlos Pena 132
2008 Milton Bradley 159

Not too shabbily! They averaged a 113 wRC+, and only five of them had a subpar batting line. In the end, it doesn’t seem to matter if you whiff a ton — so long as you can make up for that with a discerning eye. For Carter and Broxton, this seems to be welcome news.

Now, a couple of massive differences do exist between Carter and Broxton, chief among them being speed. The former plays at first base, and he’s not the Anthony Rizzo breed, either: In his career, his baserunning has been worth -10.5 runs, per BP’s data. The latter, by contrast, covers a ton of ground in center — and on the basepaths, where he earned 1.3 runs in just 244 plate appearances this year. That speed translates to hitting, too, as Broxton can leg out infield hits and take extra bases more readily than Carter.

This distinction, and the results of the study, can help us to establish a rough floor for both players. I’d imagine that, if Broxton maintains this plate discipline, he shouldn’t fare any worse than Stubbs’s 2011 season. During that year, the Reds outfielder put up a wRC+ of 90 — the lowest in this sample — and accrued 1.8 WARP over 681 plate appearances. For Carter, he’d probably bottom out around Reynolds’s 2010, when the nominal third baseman earned 2.4 WARP in 596 plate appearances despite a 96 wRC+.

Of course, the other difference is that Carter has a lot of experience — and he has bottomed out before. He came to the Brewers this season when the Astros non-tendered him, following a 104-wRC+, 0.4-WARP 2015 campaign. If he regresses to that again, he won’t have much value. Broxton, though, just surpassed the rookie limits this year, meaning the sky remains the limit (in theory). Who knows? Maybe he’ll cut down on the swings-and-misses, retain the selective swings, continue clobbering the ball when he makes contact, and become a star. Even if he doesn’t accomplish that, we’ve seen that this approach won’t doom him.

All data as of Thursday, September 22nd.

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